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                       The Language Teacher • READERS’ FORUM | 25
                                        Dr. Stephen Krashen 
                       answers questions on The 
                 Comprehension Hypothesis 
                                                                              Extended
       Marian Wang                                          Dr. Krashen (SK): YES! In fact, self-selected 
                                                            reading, done over a few years, is a wonderful 
                                                            way to prepare for all those exams. Japan has 
       Kobe University                                      become a major center for research in this area, 
                                                            thanks to Beniko Mason, Junko Yamanaka, 
             tephen Krashen                                 Atsuko Takase, Rob Waring, David Beglar, Tom 
             is Emeritus                                    Robb, Akio Furukawa, and many others. 
       SProfessor of                                        Q2: I have noticed that a lot of graded readers in-
       Education at the Uni-                                clude comprehension questions and vocabulary 
       versity of Southern                                  exercises. Isn’t this counter to what extensive 
       California. He is best                               reading is supposed to be?
       known for developing                                 SK: Yes, this is counter to the ideas underlying 
       the first comprehen-                                 extensive reading, and for two reasons:
       sive theory of second     Dr. Krashen and his advisory 
       language acquisition,            committee           1.  The time is much better spent reading more 
       introducing the concept                                  than answering comprehension questions 
       of sheltered subject matter teaching, and as the         or doing vocabulary exercises; (see e.g., 
       co-inventor of the Natural Approach to foreign           Mason’s research on efficiency, Mason & 
       language teaching. He has also contributed to            Krashen, 2004). (Exception: Some questions 
       theory and application in the area of bilingual          may stimulate thinking and discussion, 
       education, and has done important work in the            resulting in cognitive development. This is 
       area of reading. He was the 1977 Incline Bench           possible, but I have never seen it happen 
       Press champion of Venice Beach and holds a               from the questions I have read that follow 
       black belt in Tae Kwon Do. He is the author of           reading selections).
       The Power of Reading (2004) and Explorations in      2.  Questioning readers on what they read pro-
       Language Acquisition and Use (2003). His recent          motes a strange kind of reading: Rather than 
       papers can be found at < www.sdkrashen.com>.             being absorbed in the text, readers will read 
         JALT’s Extensive Reading SIG brought Dr.               in preparation for answering questions and 
       Stephen D. Krashen to the Fifth Annual Exten-            will try to learn and remember vocabulary 
                                                    rd
       sive Reading in Japan Seminar, and on July 3 ,           while they read. The kind of reading that really 
       he spoke to approximately 150 people at Kobe’s           counts (and in general the kind of input that 
       International House. Kobe JALT’s Membership              counts) is COMPELLING: The message is so 
       Chair prepared a form for participants to write          interesting that there is no focus on form; in 
       down questions for Dr. Krashen. The following            fact, the reader may not even be aware of the 
       questions received responses and have been               language the text is written in (Krashen, 2011).
       modified for brevity and accuracy.                   Q3: What do you think about rereading?
       Q1: Will reading work for high school and junior     SK: It depends. If it is mechanical rereading to 
       high school students in Japan?                       build fluency, I think it is a waste of time: Fluency 
                                                             THE LANGUAGE TEACHER: 37.1  •  January / February 2013   
          The Language Teacher • Readers’ Forum
          is a result of building reading proficiency through    of comparisons of beginning and intermediate 
          lots of interesting reading (Beglar, Hunt, & Kite,     methods (foreign language instruction in the 
          2011). If it is rereading because the book is so       US), and studies of SSR.
          wonderful the students want to read it again, it is    Q8: There are many homeroom teachers and 
          very good. Students will acquire new grammar           parents who are skeptical about the comprehen-
          and vocabulary. I would never require rereading.       sive approach and a big challenge is how to ask 
          Q4: Do you have any advice for motivated               them to be patient. Do you have any advice on 
          students who are poor readers?                         what to tell them?
          SK: I would first try the obvious:                     SK: I have no advice on dealing with colleagues 
          •   Make sure there is lots of comprehensible and      but here is an idea that might help parents: Offer 
              COMPELLING (not just interesting) read-            a free intermediate advanced English class taught 
              ing available (Krashen, 2011): comic books,        using comprehensible input methodology. Then 
              graphic novels, magazines, and/or novels           they will see for themselves.
              that students that age really want to read.        Q9: Do you still insist that production (speak-
          •   Allow some time for Sustained Silent Read-         ing/writing) is not essential for learners to learn 
              ing (SSR), but don’t require students to bring     to speak or write in a foreign language? 
              their own books. Make sure there are good 
              things to read that are easily available.          SK: I know this point is contentious, but the 
          •   Don’t require book reports for SSR.                research is very clear: Output is not essential―
          •   Include read-alouds of books that might be         more writing does not result in better writing, 
              interesting as part of the class.                  more speaking does not result in better speaking. 
            The main thing is lots and lots of easy, highly      But speaking is helpful, because it encour-
          interesting reading.                                   ages input (conversation) and makes you feel 
                                                                 more like a member of the “club” that uses the 
          Q5: What is the role of comprehensible input in        language. And writing is a powerful means of 
          speaking?                                              solving problems, and thereby making yourself 
                                                                 smarter (Krashen, 1994, 2003).
          SK: According to the comprehension hypothesis,         Q10: What should writing center counselors be 
          speaking is the result of language acquisition, not    advising students of? 
          the cause. We don’t learn to speak by speaking; 
          rather, we build up the competence for speaking by     SK: There is a limit to how much we can help 
          listening and by reading (of course, reading alone     students write more accurately in the short run. 
          won’t do the job). This has been confirmed by a        Only a few aspects of the written language are 
          number of case histories showing that the ability to   teachable and learnable. Of course in the long 
          speak “emerges” gradually as a result of listening.    term, it is wide reading that is responsible for 
          Q6: With only comprehensible input, is it possible     developing writing style. Writing center coun-
          to improve TOEFL or TOEIC scores dramatically?         selors can, however, help students understand 
                                                                 how to use writing to make themselves smarter 
          SK: Oh yes. That’s exactly what Mason (2006,           and solve problems, in other words, help them 
          2011) has reported in a series of studies with         master the composing process (Best source = the 
          intermediate adult EFL students in Japan. They         work of Peter Elbow, e.g., Elbow, 1972). Un-
          did only free voluntary reading, with no classes       derstanding the composing process has helped 
          and very little or no self-study. And in all cases     me tremendously. Please also see the articles 
          they made very impressive gains on standard-           on writing on my website at . 
          Q7: Does the comprehension hypothesis work in          Q11: Does phonics help second language acquir-
          foreign language as well as in second language         ers?
          situations?                                            SK: The assumption is that since phonics has been 
          SK: Most of the research supporting the compre-        shown to be helpful in first language development, 
          hension hypothesis comes from foreign language         it will be helpful in second language development. 
          situations, not second language. This is true          But this assumption is not fully correct. 
    26 THE LANGUAGE TEACHER Online •  
                                          Wang: Dr. Stephen Krashen answers questions on The Comprehension Hypothesis Extended  
            We have to distinguish two kinds of phonics                       1.   “Immerse” yourself in the language by in-
         instruction: Intensive, systematic phonics, in                            teracting with speakers. This will help if you 
         which we teach all the major rules in a strict                            are already an intermediate and can under-
         order to all students; and basic phonics, in which                        stand at least some authentic input. It won’t 
         we teach only the straightforward rules, rules                            help beginners.
         that both teachers and students can remember                         2.   A special program in which subject matter is 
         and actually apply to texts to make them more                             taught through the second language. I refer 
         comprehensible. In English, basic phonics con-                            to this as “sheltered” subject matter teach-
         sists of the most frequent pronunciation of initial                       ing and it can work very well if students 
         consonants (e.g., the first “b” in “bomb” but not                         are intermediates (who can understand the 
         the last one) and the most frequent pronuncia-                            instruction)
         tion of vowels.                                                      3.   A program similar to (2) but any use of the 
            There are two reasons to reject intensive                              student’s first language is forbidden. This is 
         systematic phonics: (1) The system that must be                           not desirable: Use of the first language can 
         consciously learned has too many rules, the rules                         help if it helps make input more compre-
         are too complex, and the rules have too many                              hensible, that is, by providing background 
         exceptions; (2) Intensive systematic phonics                              information. (It can delay progress if it is 
         instruction doesn’t help in reading for meaning.                          used instead of the second language, that is, 
            As Smith (2003) notes, many phonics rules are                          for translation).
         “unreliable … there are too many alternatives and                    Q13: Have you ever seen Washoe (the chim-
         exceptions … 300 ways in which letters and sounds                    panzee who acquired an impressive amount of 
         can be related” (p. 41). His most famous example                     sign)?
         is the fact that each of these uses of “ho” has a dif-
         ferent pronunciation: hot, hoot, hook, hour, honest,                 SK: No I haven’t, but my daughter and son-in-law 
         house, hope, honey, and hoist. Smith points out                      visited Washoe before she died and communicated 
         that even if a reader knew the rules, these words                    with her using sign. I hope to meet Cosmo, the 
         cannot be read accurately from left to right, letter                 amazing talking parrot: Betty Jean Craige has 
         by letter: The reader needs to look ahead.                           invited me to her home to meet Cosmo next time I 
            Some have claimed that the rules of phon-                         am in Athens, Georgia. (For a description of what 
         ics that appear not to work very well can be                         Cosmo can do, see Craige, 2010). 
         repaired and should be taught, but attempts to 
         state better generalizations have resulted only in                   Q14: Have any studies been done into the effect 
         more complex rules that are only slightly more                       of peer correction? 
         efficient (Krashen, 2002).                                           SK: There are no studies demonstrating that peer 
            Let me suggest a simple procedure: If the                         correction, or non-peer correction, has a lasting 
         teacher has to look up the rule before coming                        effect. In many studies, correction has no effect. 
         to class, that rule is too complex to teach. If the                  When it has an effect, it is small, and only occurs 
         teacher doesn’t remember it, the students won’t                      when the conditions for Monitor use are met, 
         remember it either.                                                  confirming that correction influences conscious 
            Intensive, systematic phonics instruction does                    learning, not acquisition. In my opinion, the 
         not help children in real reading. The impact of                     most compelling papers on the impact of correc-
         intensive phonics is clear on tests in which chil-                   tion have been written by John Truscott (1996, 
         dren pronounce lists of words in isolation, but it                   1999, 2004, 2005). 
         is not significant on tests in which children have 
         to understand what they read. Thus, intensive                        Q15: How can we control for the influence of 
         phonics instruction only helps children develop                      out-of-class/in-class variables in research? 
         the ability to pronounce words in isolation, an                      SK: Even with studies using experimental and 
         ability that will emerge anyway with more read-                      control groups, there are variables that cannot 
         ing (Garan, 2002; Krashen, 2009).                                    be measured or controlled. One way to deal 
         Q12: Does “immersion” help second language                           with this is to keep doing lots of studies. If 25 
         acquirers?                                                           studies are done, and the conditions are slightly 
         SK: “Immersion” is a confusing term and can be                       different in each one (different teachers, time of 
         used in at least three ways:                                         day, amounts of outside reading, etc.), we can be 
                                                                              confident that our results are valid. The interest-
                                                                                THE LANGUAGE TEACHER: 37.1  •  January / February 2013    27
           The Language Teacher • Readers’ Forum
           ing thing about self-selected or extensive reading            Krashen, S. (2004). The power of reading: Insights 
                                                                                                nd
           is that we keep getting the same results in both                from the research (2  ed.). Portsmouth, NH: 
           correlational studies and in case studies.                      Heinemann.
           Q16: What research directions would you                       Krashen, S. (2009). Does intensive decoding 
           advise? What should research be measuring?                      instruction contribute to reading comprehen-
                                                                           sion? Knowledge Quest, 37(4), 72–74.
           SK: The research so far has been very, very                   Krashen, S. (2011). The compelling (not just 
           impressive. Free Voluntary Reading/Extensive                    interesting) input hypothesis. The English 
           Reading works in a wide variety of situations,                  Connection, 15(3), 1.
           and lots of different measures have been used. I              Mason, B., & Krashen, S. (2004). Is form-focused 
           am most excited about cases in which language                   vocabulary instruction worthwhile? RELC 
           acquirers only read for pleasure, and show                      Journal, 35(2), 179–185.
           dramatic gains, without study, studies of the                 Mason, B. (2006). Free voluntary reading and 
           kind Mason (2006) has done. And of course it                    autonomy in second language acquisition: 
           would be good to see if extensive reading works                 Improving TOEFL scores from reading alone. 
           with other target languages. I know of only one                 International Journal of Foreign Language Teach-
           study that has looked at this, done by Hitosugi                 ing, 2(1), 2–5.
           and Day (2004).                                               Mason, B. (2011). Impressive gains on the TOEIC 
                                                                           after one year of comprehensible input, with 
           Acknowledgement                                                 no output or grammar study. International 
           Kobe JALT would like to thank Dr. Stephen D.                    Journal of Foreign Language Teaching, 7(1). 
           Krashen for responding to questions from the                  Smith, F. (2003). Understanding reading: A psycho-
           audience.                                                       linguistic analysis of reading and learning to read. 
                                                                           Mahwah, NJ: Erlbaum.
           References                                                    Truscott, J. (1996). The case against grammar cor-
           Beglar, D., Hunt, A., & Kite, Y. (2011). The effect             rection in L2 writing classes. Language Learning, 
             of pleasure reading on Japanese university                    46(2), 327–369.
             EFL learners’ reading rates. Language Learning,             Truscott, J. (1999). What’s wrong with oral 
             62(2), 1–39.                                                  grammar correction. Canadian Modern Language 
           Craige, B. J. (2010). Conversations with Cosmo.                 Review, 55(4), 437–456.
             Santa Fe, NM: Sherman Asher Publishing.                     Truscott, J. (2004). Evidence and conjecture on 
           Elbow, P. (1972). Writing without teachers. New                 the effects of error correction: A response to 
             York, NY: Oxford University Press.                            Chandler. Journal of Second Language Writing, 
                                                                           13, 337–343.
           Garan, E. (2002). Resisting reading mandates: How             Truscott, J. (2005). The continuing problems of 
             to triumph with the truth. Portsmouth, NH:                    oral grammar correction. International Journal of 
             Heinemann.                                                    Foreign Language Teaching, 1(2), 17–22.
           Hitosugi, C. I., & Day, R. (2004). Extensive read-
             ing in Japanese. Reading in a Foreign Language,             Marian Wang is Associate Pro-
             16(1).                                                      fessor at Kobe University. Prior 
           Krashen, S. (1994). The input hypothesis and                  to teaching, she worked for 
             its rivals. In N. Ellis (Ed.), Implicit and explicit        international organizations in-
             learning of languages. (pp. 45–77). London,                 cluding Catholic Relief Services 
             England: Academic Press.                                    (Macedonia), Oxfam America, 
           Krashen, S. (2002). Defending whole language:                 the World Trade Organization, 
             The limits of phonics instruction and the                   and Partners for Democratic 
             efficacy of whole language instruction. Reading             Change. She holds an M.A. 
             Improvement, 39(1), 32–42.                                  in TESOL from the Monterey 
           Krashen, S. (2003). Explorations in language acqui-           Institute of International Studies and an M.A. in 
             sition and use: The Taipei lectures. Portsmouth,            Law and Diplomacy from the Fletcher School at 
             NH: Heinemann.                                              Tufts University. She is the Membership Chair 
                                                                         for the Kobe Chapter of JALT. She can be con-
                                                                         tacted at . 
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